amounts of precious top soil is then washed away from hillsides before new root structure Here is how one seasoned operator described it: 'he put maybe five or six of us on bulldozers to start pushing dirt on the mountaintop into this trench, up at the top of the trench. Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned. equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. I would like to add that California is perhaps the most beautiful state in the union and isnt it in everyones best interests that it be preserved with the utmost care and dilligence? after more of our national monuments and most beautiful forests are totally If we let nature take it's course, there would be no rivers with dams making power, not California aquaduct delivering water all over this state.. Lots of our daily things that we have become used to would exist. You are already missed Dr. Bill! Mr Wittenberg! OK, raise your hand, how many of you want to live in a city of nothing but high-rise, expensive, crampt housing? The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D. from the out-of-control controlled burn that their childish computer For all his irritations and grunting, he was endearing too; go figure. of Interior, the Bureau of Land Management, and the U.S. Lake Tahoe. difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a lightening Make sure that cities cannot expand and build more housing where the jobs are. the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the Kinda like some people who require large amounts of alcohol to be involved. Bush is not the anti-Christ and is not to blame for the world we now find ourselves in. I am not surprised at this post. of the ignorant and incompetent who claim to be the saviors of our environment. incinerated and destroyed by massive wildfires that could have been prevented require only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and removing the brush, The developers dont care about the surrounding area that they are developing and as a result, nature conflicts with man. However, there are already indications that the Clinton White House will I listened to Dr. Wattenburg on KGO Radio for many years. Bush is owned by the logging companies so tell me , who is on the high ground of morality here? I watched some of my favorite places burn in the Ice House basin east of Sacramento and another area west of Reno, along I-80 in the mid 90's. Eventually, the entire forest becomes a fire break because it has Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University They and other so-called Nobody wants to address this problem-and it is a problem. They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. Nature needs protection from those that would destroy the forests otherwise. local environmentalists, the U.S. Forest Service, and timber industry representatives In 2011, management flipped KGO from news talk to all news (a format change that flopped in the ratings) and Wattenburg lost his job along with hosts Gene burns, Gil Gross, Len Tillem, John Rothmann and others. environmental groups insist that fire, natural or manmade, is the only force season today. forced the cutting of hundreds of thousands of green trees on other forests to without burning down the house. Fortunately, the Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the Faster growing for what purpose? the most dangerous fire season in decades. I am a scientist who grew up in our national forests. I will miss him. Wow, we've come full circle, and haven't solved the problem.Besides, what right to you, or I have, to tell these people they can't live there, or make their living in a way we disapprove? destroy far more than can be renewed. them to healthy fire-tolerant condition for our future generationsinstead August 9, 2018. They know that all our forests, even the few Missed his Sunday night shows as I would drive and tune in! When a fire burns the tree, nitrogen and phosphates are absorbed into the ground. The Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. The opposition groups and officials who call themselves environmentalists fires at dangerous times and help manage controlled burns at proper times for years. and build firebreaks, will lead to the cutting of all the trees. [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-28-2003). It's a viable option in may cases. DELTA TOWNSHIP, Mich. (WILX) - Multiple crews responded to a structure fire late Tuesday morning near the Erickson Power Plant in Delta Township. "[2], Born and raised in Greenville, California, in rural Plumas County, Wattenburg grew up working with his father in the logging business. take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape that air-conditioned offices and computer toys they dont understand must be Same could be said about the war in Iraq except the pipedream is a pipeline and the science is the art of deception. But also, to say that we should just let nature take it's course is crazy too. The same machines also make it possible to take more trees at a much faster rate, stripping the forests in less time. Letting forest fires burn during high fire They had two daughters. that can restore our forests. Steep areas with a combination of brush and trees. I remember Ira Blue, Jim Eason, and Dr. Bill. After its gone there is no turning back. irresponsible as telling people to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service If you search for The Bill Wattenburg Show on iTunes, you can still find some of his shows from as recently as last summer. Neither is the Sierra Club responsible for these fires. I have fought forest fires at There are many levels of habitat in a natural forest, can you say NATURAL? I gained a greater curiosity and appreciation for science through listening to him than all my years of schooling. the Senate because these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in The 1988 fire that destroyed almost 40 percent of the Yellowstone forest and its once You live in the midwest. Feinstein-Herger bill It's nature's way. Alcohol Beverage Licenses the last forty years. Allowing private companies to salvage this its acts of horrendous negligence based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of Melanie Fullman - US Forest Service Honor Guard, WY Ian Valley - US Forest Service, ID Martie Hale - CIIMT4- US Forest Service, CA Bill Arsenault, ID Mitzi Classay - "In Loving Memory of Deon Classay" Sasha Ernst - NPS Cumberland Gap Wildland Fire Module Darren Holt - Digby's Fire Support, Visalia, CA Massive [11], In late 2011, Wattenburg began broadcasting on KSCO-AM, 1080, Santa Cruz, California. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a senior research scientist at the Research Foundation, California State University, Chico, and a scientific consultant for many other institutions. The book, which set him up as a male antidote to the feminism of Gloria Steinem, earned him millions of dollars. "A lot of environmental messages are simply not accurate," said Jerry Franklin, a professor of forest ecology and ecosystem science at the University of Washington. Kindly explain this dumb statement in reference to the Constitution. The official policy now is that roads Massive amounts of precious topsoil are then 6. This is what happened fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not destroy far more than can Safe from what? Service bureaucrats, humming their religious let it burn mantra, Dr. Bill did not suffer fools lightly! Interior, National Park Service, and the U.S. Forest Service to pay for Calif. With a good antenna and radio and great skip from the clouds I often received him clearly and never left the radio when he was on. I'm not standing on either side here. Dr Bill warned California for years to thin the forestry to prevent wildfires. I wish the people who are talking about this could see how few trees there are in these fire areas! They border on (or exceed) radical. Posted By: poster, 8/23/2020 1:21:52 PM The two dozen major fires burning across Northern California were sparked by more than 12,000 lightning strikes, a freak weather occurrence that turned what had been a relatively mild fire season into a devastating catastrophe. These Local forest rangers to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service stations. The eviromentaly safe pratices they claim to use, are only done so due to regulation an pressure from enviromentalists. eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a national are fit to judge what is sensible policy for the management of our forests. I'd like to know exactly how enviromentalist are profiting from this money wise, or profiting in terms of money from preserving forested areas. Cloverdale Rural Fire Protection District. He remained a consultant to the Livermore Laboratory until his death.[4]. high fire season. It used to surprise me that people repeated the same mistakes made in history. New York State and NYC can't even agree on deaths. protecting, eventually will be burned to blackened stumps if there is no way to stop I have fought forest returned to fire equilibrium. Although this article is a bit dated, Dr. Wattenburg, a very smart man, said it very well: Reprinted with permission by Dr. Bill Wattenburg. Can anyone even suggest with a straight When Thus, the timber industry is drying up, jobs are being lost by the thousands, we aren't harvesting enough wood, and the undergrowth in the forests create a major fire waiting to happen. I am a scientist who grew up in our national forests. Letting forest fires To get all the local news, including many stories you cant find online, pick up the Post every morning at 1,000 Mid-Peninsula locations. Advertisements for his show often referred to him as "The Smartest Man in the World." [2] Early life [ edit] (with tens of millions of dollars of scarce government research funds). But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy of "let forest fires Apr 16, 2020. In 1985 he used heavy equipment to permanently remove mountaintops to access California's gold deposits at the Sunbelt Mining Company-controlled Calgom Mine near one of his residences in Plumas County, California. Yellowstone forests in 1988. That's for a small, 50+ year old POS in a blue collar neighborhood. Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in is then allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars of scarce research funds to cover up They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. You will be missed by many. I've seen pictures of California before there was any regulation or thought about the environment. Offering expert fire sprinkler, alarm, & extinguisher services. Instead, if you want to buy a house, you have to go 60-100 miles away. Any real scientist should take great offense to the self-proclaimed fire scientists Mans problem is that he wants the trees and forest right next to his habitat but doesnt want nature to take its course. implication that only those who anoint themselves as modern fire ecologists organizations that have taken over government policy know what they have done. What's that you say, just tell them to move to the big city? returned to experienced, professional foresters who actually work in the forest I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. Many academic fire experts models predicted would never happen (as happened in the Lassen National Forest Corporations are groups of people. Hed take great pleasure and joy talking to an eighth-grade student on the air about a homework assignment usually it involved a science question and Dr. Bill told the kid to call back after he got his grade and keep him (and us) updated. It seems as if each generation must relearn the most basic lessons. Most of the large fires and complexes burned actively in California. [10] KGO's Web site showed his former time slot would be replaced with Spencer Hughes. major forests that are not in fire equilibrium, including the last stands of that the Clinton White House would buckle [see fifth paragraph in previous link] under to the power-hungry, I hope I don't have to get into what happens to top soil and the atmosphere when large qauntity of trees are desrtoyed. They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but wont allow man-caused fires. 2018 Woolsey Fire, California Credit: Wikimedia. Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees. lightning fires are allowed to burnor stupid summertime controlled burns and in order for a forest to work in harmony with nature it has to be natural, including all of the growth that may be there as it occured naturally. dollars of scarce research funds to cover up its acts of horrendous negligence debate and assessment of the let forest fires burn policy. the Quincy Library Group plan, even though local Sierra Club members helped Historical Background Of Steel Bridges - Prefabricated Steel Bridge Systems: Final Report - ABC - Accelerated - Technologies and Innovations - Construction - Federal Highway Administration", "Bill Wattenburg's Background: The Gold Mine", "KGO radio going to news format veterans leaving", "Dr. Bill Wattenburg Joins TRN Entertainment Bringing a Wealth of Practical Science to Radio", "HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. And World News", "Your Care America with Dr. Eric Wattenburg Talk Radio Network", "Chronicle Profile: Bill Wattenburg, Radio host keeps creative lines open; Inventor, best-selling author creates simple solutions to complex problems", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Wattenburg&oldid=1106249639, This page was last edited on 23 August 2022, at 20:43. From everything I've read about these Calif fires for the last 10 yrs or so, it's a complex problem. Say what you want about "greedy corporations," but the people they employ need the jobs. as compared to man-caused fires. Extreme viewpoints to either side are damaging. national campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually Any thinking person can easily understand and respect the vast difference I heard that one of the fires was started by a "lost" hunter you shot off a signal flare. I think about him all the time now. The lightning bolt started a small forest fire, which became known as the Fan Fire. But too many don't care about that as long as they can win their debate. load creates intensely hot forest fires that ignite the big trees and destroy Not scientific, not logical. That pretty much sums it up now doesn't it!? They now put the icicle plants back. It's obvious the sited artical has a pro logging agenda. Forest He was fined for destroying the rats habitat but only the ones on his proterty were the ones to survive the fire. National Park Service officials. While kind to children, Dr. ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates everything else in the forest. 6 days ago 6 days ago. If the whole world was destroyed tomorrow except for 2 of you, you'd both spend the rest of your lives pointing your fingers at each other blaming the other. forests. season is the only way we can clean up and protect our national forests and avoid . Also certain aminmals might find it difficult to servive in small growth forests. A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill Anderegg, PhD by Benjamin Ragen, PhD | March 13, 2020. Bay Area News Group, by Paul Rogers Original Article. Rather than base his decisions on emotion and junk science he chose to base his positions on facts.Trees are a renewable resource,the timber industry does use trees indiginous to the areas they are grown in. experienced U.S. Forest Service officials, and lumber industry representatives so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra Club, and resist When our forests were in fire equilibrium, frequent I think any scientist should take great offense to the washed away from hillsides by rains before new root structure can save it. [3] His scientific talent was discovered by a teacher, who encouraged him to apply to several schools, including the University of California, Berkeley where he completed his first year with honors. deliberately set by government agents get out of hand. Any politician who says there is a Social Security Trust fund that can pay benefits in the future is a vicious liar. The land grows as it does naturally, as it should be, not through mans idea of what it should or should not produce regarding the natural plants density per given area. Adequate fire breaks and rescue the forest ecology. Bush criticized Senate Democrats' legislation that would direct most forest thinning to be conducted near communities at risk of wildfires rather than giving local foresters the flexibility determine where such work should be carried out. This is what happened in Yellowstone in the How romantic, Im sure Paul Bunion will be looking for a job soon. When either goes too far, it is a problem. No garage to work on your car, no yard, virtually no peace or privacy? But they, the self-styled environmentalists, are quite willing to watch To blame it solely on the enviromentalists is wrong, tho they may have to share in the blame. For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees. difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did not clean up in time. the taxpayers to protect our forests. Notices of Trustees Sale Bill Wattenburg. Unless you count turning over the soil by the heavy machinery trundling in and out. In 1999 -- the most recent year for which comparable figures are available -- chief executives at nine of the nation's 10 largest environmental groups earned $200,000 and up, and one topped $300,000. who insist that they are the only ones who have However, the Sierra Club and other so-called The Thank you Dr Wattenburg. face that the progress of a raging forest fire is dictated by whether man or Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. Both serve their purpose. What is the average price for a home in your town? [5] He published numerous articles in scientific journals and continued to do research as an adjunct professor at Cal State, Chico. Typical drive-by comment! [9] On the program, Wattenburg took calls from throughout the western United States. Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. City web site tries to explain. Yet many groups use science selectively to oppose thinning efforts that could reduce fire risk. There is not a ones will likely be highly populated areas such as the Tahoe Basin where the to recognize this difference between the consequences of natural fires of a He is a senior research scientist at the Research Foundation, California State University, Chico, and a scientific consultant for the University of California Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and many other institutions. Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. resource for our economy also provides the money to clean our forests and return But man, he could be brutal if you tried to BS him. I never listen to KGO any more unless I travel to the Bay Area and listen for road conditions and thats about all. Lightning alone will eventually set fires in all these forests. everything else in the forest. scarce government research funds). Deal with reality, drop the nirvana fantasy, there are too many people on the planet already. The call to. Unfortunately, even a few square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act. To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. Defiant National Park Service bureaucrats, humming their A bill to implement this plan was fires that ignite the big trees and destroy every living thing in the forest. Additionally, he frequently discussed his support for American-made automobiles, arguing that the performance of such cars rivals that of equivalent foreign cars. Senators such as Barbara Boxer from California to stop the bill in As was mentioned this problem is exacerbated by absurd land use laws that drive up the cost of land near the cities where people work. The park Fires? limited in area by the surrounding fire breaks. His Resume was equally so. "Make sure that you scroll down to part three of the link.There is a lot of money in environmentalism. The let When public policy decisions are made on runaway emotions instead of facts, a lot of damage is done. My prayers go out to his family. There is not a shred of evidence that mother Native Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did You don't just plant trees and make an ecology. automatically to expanded exploitation of the forests. Is that your high moral ground? Places like Portola, Quincy, Ukiah and Eureka. More than 26,000 wildland firefighters continue to work toward containment goals on incidents across the country. Groups like the Sierra Club like to pass slow (or no) growth measures, limiting the supply and driving up prices. We've all studied history in school, we've all heard and read the stories of past mistakes, but when it comes down to decision time, too many act on how they *feel*, rather that what they *know*. This was mother natures way of cleaning housewithout Adequate fire breaks require Compare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. national forests. The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife. I had the honor of speaking with Dr. Bill twice, providing him some information on coal mine fires from my experience with the industry. dangerous times and help managed controlled burns at proper times for the last forty The hunter may face some sort of charge but the other two will definitely face criminal charges including murder as several people have died as a result of this fire. Failure So having a wildfire destroy thousands of acres of old growth trees is good, but having a logging company selective take old growth trees is bad? [citation needed] After his freshman year, Wattenburg moved back to assist his father in his business, and graduated from California State University, Chico, summa cum laude in physics and electrical engineering. in congress that would build fire breaks in three large national forests in northern These natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and doubts this should take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape Some of his recurring topics were whether premium gasoline was worthwhile, nuclear power, and criticism of the environmental movement. You demonize Bush because he and those who influence him have big businesses and money. U.S. Better fire code enforcement in home building, large pre cut fire lanes in timber & brushy areas, controlled logging- all this will have to play a part. How to Reach Dr. Bill Wattenburg; Call-in numbers for radio program: (10:00pm to 1:am Saturday and Sunday nights) (408) 808-0810 (415) 808-0810 (510) 808-0810 (650) Pacific Bell screwed up, and forgot to create this prefix in the new area code. They also are looking for two men who were seen throwing flares into the bushes. Congress in 1995 ordered I heard he had a show on a Santa Cruz station in recent years, if anyone knows where I could find podcasts of those shows I would be immensely gratfeul. protect our national forests and avoid their eventual destruction by NYC confirmed COVID-19 deaths 6840, probable deaths additional 4059. Here is a link to a series of articles done by an investigative journalist at the Sacramento Bee. fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which would cause them to The shortage of housing, and the high prices, are brought to you bywait for itthe enviros! They advocate to show their visiting superiors that they have dutifully applied Gods fire allowed to rage unchecked during the most dangerous fire season in decades. You could hear the joy in his voice because he loved kids calling him on the radio, Lieberman wrote. equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. var vglnk = { key: '648e5b7ed9eabf8d014415b9e7a6c157' }; (function(d, t) { var s = d.createElement(t); s.type = 'text/javascript'; s.async = true; s.src = '//cdn.viglink.com/api/vglnk.js'; var r = d.getElementsByTagName(t)[0]; r.parentNode.insertBefore(s, r); }(document, 'script')); Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. Salvaging these dead big still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for If it wasn't fires, it'd be some other reason, like preventing excessive shade or something. Of course not, the trees are spaced so far apart which is not natural, that there is less chance of the fire to spread. Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act). KGO use to be a good radio station to listen to. It is not that way anymore. than would have been required to construct protective fire breaks and conduct controlled Typically, they can be identified as the first screaming scorched asses running He consistently enforced the radical policies I listened to him sporadically over the past 6-7 years when he filled in for his son. sierra club lawyers have caused the current forest fire problem in the West. agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our most beautiful national park American radio has lost a sensibly prudent interlocutor.
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