star trek: discovery tilly weight gain

I suppose thats why some places are rising and others are very visibly in decline. Just blows my mind. And so she will be part of this universe and this world for many years to come. Harry wasnt annoying. I guess some people would rather the perfect people of TNG than anyone that mirrors back anything they dont want to see in themselves. Waste of talent. Her empathic abilities work via viewscreens? The following contains spoilers from Star Trek: Discovery's Season 4 finale. I think you are talking jibberish. And no one in their right mind would play poker with her. And I just let the writers take me on a journey. Definitely not a dig at the actress, she is only delivering what the directors and producers have asked her to deliver. She opted that she had a different calling within the world of teaching and, in the end, she decided that she wanted to chase that feeling. Sonequa is by all accounts probably the best or one of the best chef de compagnie of all the Trek series. Why did they do that? Mary Wiseman: I wish there maybe in the future theres room for some protective best friend/boyfriend energy. ;). The character. And to have somebody step in and defend you is really meaningful. And to get to see that visually, that was a very gratifying moment for me to see, Okay, somebody different showed up., Mary Wiseman as Tilly and Oded Fehr as Admiral Vance in Coming Home. Perhaps they had a second or third language that they use regularly. I think Mary Wiseman is a fantastic actress..the writing for Tilly is an abomination. Ive learned a lot of bad spelling comes from dictating into your smartphone. She is super meta. Im glad for you that you didnt find him annoying. I find her character interesting, but inconsistent. Especially when there were just so many more qualified people for the job on and off the ship. By: TrekMovie.com Staff Lwaxana sometimes I dont mind her simply because she puts Picard and Odo on their back feet, but she was very OTT on shows that didnt really have a lot of OTT characters, and there was little reason for her to keep appearing on DS9 beyond reverence towards Majel Barrett. Overweight and obesity are not a matter of looks or body shape, and those who feel free to body-shame are off-side and frequently unkind. Ive finally had the chance to reply to your comment about Lue Elizondo etc on the other thread. 71 comments so far. Im relieved to say I have no idea how that feels, and its something I cant even stomach thinking about, frankly. Way too many issues. The problem is, very deep into his 80s, and theres still chatter about him playing the action hero. It explains why each scene is half-redundant and half-contradictory with the others within the same episode. Given all the trouble the crew got into, Im sure they needed one on the ship. I gave this dumpster fire of far left propaganda 4 seasons. Remember , they had steroids and thyroid problems in the 80's, but the majority of people were off normal weight, which today would be called skinny. I know most dont share my opinon that after a terrible first half of S1, I have generally liked Discovery but making Tilly first officer was quite possibly the most ridiculous plot twist in the history of Trek. Although there are speculations of Mary Wiseman's pregnancy, she is not. And to be honest, her character has regressed significantly over the past few years. I agree 100%. I mean, it was just so fun! I hate the body shaming of actresses Theres recently was yet another fanboy arse-hat bloger who on their twitter account made an unkind comment about Mary/Tilly regarding her weight. I truly do love this show, but Burnham and Tilly are so damn annoying. All are different. Because Book is someone who doesnt just have cerebral, intellectual intelligence. Actress Mary Wiseman did a series of media . Tilly is a wonderful incarnation of our inner geekdom, a person you would find at conventions or in fanfiction I love this character so much because she isnt perfect. However, with the successive changes in show runners the coherence of Burnhams development has been lost. I am a therapist in real life, and even *I* think it was crazy that they had a therapist on the bridge. While Tilly had big dreams in Star Trek: Discovery season 1, she struggled with feelings of inadequacy and was hindered by a social awkwardness that often left her feeling like an outsider. What do you mean? Overweight is a risk of becoming obese. Episodes will be. Do you see that tension? Although they didnt really use secondary characters wellthey still dont. And it was mentioned in one of the episodes of the first season, I dont remember whichwould have to research, that councilors on Galaxy class ships due to the fact that families were on the ship and it was meant for longer than 5 year missions. What I should point out though is that Mack earned the moniker Angel of Death among the Litverse fans. We need to examine our highest ideals and allegiances to reveal our preconceived notions, shallow knee-jerk reactions, and find the truth about our choices. It inspired her to switch careers. CBS/Paramount+ For Wiseman's Tilly, the danger and near-loss of all the cadets, including Adira (Blu del Barrio) forces her. Against all odds, shes in Starfleet and thriving. Tillys great contribution is that shes NOT that sort of superwoman most people can never be. For what its worth Picard has an excellent cast, male and female, it just feels they are one or two notches above their discovery peers, maybe again due to writing/direction. That way she wont get the appearance she does now of jumping over more experienced officers and seeming to just get ahead because shes Sarus favorite. My point was Why does the ships therapist have a bridge station? Im not surprised people making mean comments, some people will find whatever they can that they know will upset everyone and say it. It was a good perspective in S1, and lines up with Star Trek values. I think the character would have been much better served if Tillys quirks were something that changed as the character grew over the seasons. My only issue with Captain Killy is that she died that wonderful red hair blonde. She is relatable and human and wonderful. I do not endorse body-shaming in any way, as I was bullied as a kid years ago. And CBS posted some images of Emperor Georgious quarters on the ISS Discovery. I believe we can thank Mack for helping the Showrunners and writers identify species that would work in Prodigy and for some deep cuts. Then there are many women like Sonequa, who feel theyre too skinny. Just take a little trip down the hellhole that is a tabloids message boards and youll see the kind of body shaming of male and female actors and celebrities that exists out there. I for one have always had to watch my weight and I still wage the battle to this day. Mary's fans are curious to know if she is indeed expecting a little one but the rumors are false. Roddenberrys imprint on Next Gen made the characters not flawed enough for some tastes, granted, but Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and Enterprise have countless examples of human foibles and emotions sure, not to the degree as Discovery, with its ship full of Barclays as one commenter put it, rhetorically. That said, I know people can be cruel and I am even worried bringing up this topic for fear of the idiot fringe piling on, but I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. As a Black girl, I felt I was supposed to look this way. I wasnt complaining there were therapists on board. You know, like a psychotic murderer? I have to agree. I originally was skeptical but then I turned around in season 1 and really started enjoying it. It doesnt matter either way but with so much Voyager mythology created in those novels, it would be cool to see some of it translated on this show! And others opinions dont factor in. She cant control her weight. Thats not good writing, its oandering fan fiction, Starfleet is not military. But it looks like TG47 answered your question! There is also the issue that a crew needing constant therapy sessions while regularly saving the galaxy is not an easy narrative trick to pull off. At the other end, underweight is also unhealthy and associated with other risks, but gets less negative attention in entertainment. Somehow these insecure people feel others not like them are a threat to how they see themselves and how the world should, in their opinion, be. Its this kind of nonsense that ruins Discovery. I would ask our family doctor, Is there anything you can give me thatll make me gain weight?'. I think Mary is doing a fantastic job as isSonequa, Their characters are fantastic as are all the others. The laughing, alone, is far more damaging and shameful and disgusting and disrespectful than obesity itself. That finale appearance was basically a cameo. And Kirsten Beyer probably consults on that show too along with her duties on Picard and Discovery, so its possible at least. ;). I dont read the same type of criticism for their male actors. There are admittedly quite a few other Starfleet officers Scotty and Riker, for example who prove that being chunky is still a thing in the future. Paramount+'s Star Trek: Discovery is the flagship of the modern-day Star Trek television franchise, premiering in 2017 and about to launch its fourth season on November 18. #StarTrekDiscovery #MirrorLandry pic.twitter.com/Ed0nbToiQH, Rekha the leaves (@TheRekhaSharma) December 19, 2020. Tilly should have been introduced as female Barclay or a less extreme version of junior lieutenant Picard in Tapestry (the alternate timeline where his career stalled after avoiding getting stabbed in the heart). Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Ive seen fan-fics with better characters than this. That was always the theory I had for Barclay. All Access Star Trek Podcast, Discovery, DS9, Lower Decks, Section 31, Star Trek 4, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. Its been a continuing book series since 2009 and still going. DS9 Avatar books 1 and 2 were quite good and helpfully kicked off the DS9 Relaunch sequence. Since season one, Tilly (Mary Wiseman). The reason why Troi was on the bridge all the timewas that she was a betazoid. Its very possible Mary Wiseman wanted off the show, or needed a bit of a break. In her interview with TrekMovie last week, Discovery co-showrunner Michelle Paradise echoed these sentiments: Well never be done with Tilly. Obligatory mention of the stupid turbolifts and how dumb they are. Did Tilly on Discovery gain weight? They told us and a handful of other outlets what to expect for their characters and more. Star Trek: Discovery's Mary Wiseman and Blu del Barrio reflect on their character's journeys and the possibilities ahead. Season four of Star Trek: Discovery arrives on Thursday, November 18 on Paramount+. Its shall we say very variable. Promoting her to the first officer was stupid enough, but now shes leading at the Academy? And how and how would your abilities be used in the Mirror Universe? In fact, thats all the Discovery crew is qualified as in the 32nd century. I KNOW, people say they are great, I was too focused on Star Trek when those were airing, but I might try and give the original show a shot one day. And I just really love having Janeway back. Shes changed. What a surprise. After they wrote her to be the most annoying person possible. Its very likely shell be on the Star Fleet Academy show if she continues as a regular/recurring character on a Trek show. That promise was. Do I want to be Barclay or Harry Kim? She hasnt mentored anyone except in one episode. Everybody loves is an idiom, it should never be taken as a strict statement. Its so brutal. Would a woman watching this aspire to be a Tilly or aspire to be a Dax, Kira or Janeway? And for your own gain, right? You misunderstood. :). Where did all the good writers go?? Weve seen Captain Killy, so what does Mirror Universe Book look like? She wrote ten books based around this concept and still writing them. Neither she nor anyone else with common sense is celebrating obesity. Tilly, played by Mary Wiseman on Star Trek Discovery is not pregnant. For more info or tickets visit the Lincoln Center Theater site. Everybody loves ., meant literally, is never true. Its all relative, but I dont see a lot of actors being body-shamed. The visual reboot premise was overstretched. Too nervous and anxious. From the next episode on season 3 which was at least okay up to that point started to completely fall apart. This week's episode raised concerns. Personally I dont find that inspiring in any way whatsoever. So sayeth Scotty, the contrarian. I wonder if there is any news that she might be pregnant. Theres a little Harley Quinn. Mary shouldnt listen to the haters and Sonequa, I never noticed she looked any different than she did before, body wise. And honestlyKirk wouldnt last a week in a military environment. Took time to reset the franchise. But to play the Devils Advocate here for a moment Tilly as she was originally presented and continued to be for quite some time is not something most women would aspire to be I should think. Those b@stards, however, totally killed Landry )Cuddles with @actordougjones and @davbentom These men are nothing short of hereoic in prosthetics all day e'reday. It would definitely be great if Rhys was promoted to first officer. Thank you for your counter opinion. In every real-life Trekkie community Im a part of, as well as most online, shes loved. Good points. The only writers they need are people who can polish it up enough so that you cant tell its machine-written. Her character, Sylvia Tilly, has had plenty of opportunities to shine without giving anything away, and Wiseman has risen to the occasion. Every Thursday night I yell Black Alert to let everyone know Im watching Star Trek. Martin-Green says she has come to accept changes in her body, especially after the birth of her second child shortly before production on season three: With my first pregnancy I bounced back without trying (which is a crime, by the way, that we expect women to do that after birth rather than focus on healing). Come on she looks great. Some folks here like this nu trek because it lowered standards to make them feel better about themselves. Unfortunately PICARD turned out to be set in the same period, so it derailed my plans, although later I did figure out a way to explain the considerable differences in the Prime Universe. Id add Kirk to that at several times over the years. When Mary Wisemans Lt. Sylvia Tilly left the USS Discovery for a job at the new Starfleet Academy in the fourth episode of season four, it was promised she would be back. I think the CW has been using something like this for years. In this week's episode of Star Trek: Discovery season four, we saw Tilly leaving her crew and heading to the academy in order to foster young minds. Wiseman was appreciative of fans who had her back online: I just want to say that all the people who step in, to back me up like that, your presence is like little angels, like blocking out these little trolls. Youre perfect as you are. It means something to me. Everybody loves Tilly. Except the writers of course. The reed-thin part sometimes involves unhealthy behaviors. 108 comments so far. Although criticism of a performance is valid (Burnhams whispering, over emoting etc.) That is assuming the this Starfleet Academy show is set in the 32nd century. Editor's note, 23 Dec 2020: If you like Wiseman's interview here, then you should also check out interviewer Dawn Ennis's other work. I dont think youre ready for that kind of interaction, online, or anywhere else. Obesity and overweight are associated with health chronic issues by definition. I never felt that what has come before should define the franchise in the future. While not getting specific about if or where we will see Tilly again, Wiseman also hinted the finale was not the end of her story: Tilly is not somebody who lets people leave her life. I keep saying this but its a great time to be a Star Trek fan again! Regarding fans, tons of them love Tilly. That being said, knowing what weight restrictions there are for men and women serving avoid combat ships in todays Navy, my bet would be she would need to lose some weight to preserve her shipboard assignment in todays real-world Navy. So smart in the Starfleet tradition. Like a lot of people, she pivoted and found herself in a new role as teacher. But my initial annoyed response to DISCO in particular, well, Ive let go of that in the past two years, as life is too short to get all worked-up angry over personal quibbles with a tv show. Except that would imply that her being there was the exception rather than the rule. I know a thing or two about haters-pay no mind. I do find their quirks annoying at times, but the most important reason I like them is because theyre honest, kind people with a good heart. At New York Comic Con, TrekMovie participated in some group interviews with members of the cast and crew, one of which was with the pair-up of Mary Wiseman (Tilly) and David Ajala (Book). Its not celebrating obesity to say that her body is her business and nobody elses. Cant believe people are so rude as to insult anyone because they dont look the way they expect. Shes beyond perfect with her line delivery. Which I think would be a tremendous mistake. Events in David Macks two books towards the end of that series ( A Time to Kill and A Time to Heal) have a profound impact throughout the rest of the Litverse. So, although he does the occasional guest star role in other shows produced in Canada, he could take on a larger role on Discovery. Please back up your statement. It seems like people like her say: this is me. Its all pretty subjective. Sort of the same way Spock stayed first officer in the movies to Kirk although he was a captain for five of those films. Probably some admirals cousin. Disco has a lot of problems storywise But not her looks! That was why she was never in uniform the first few seasons. Im reaally hoping season 4 will be smoother, Im holding thumbs here. The Enterprise D was the only place we saw a councelor. Loved that show, so did my wife. Mary Wiseman is confirmed to return as Sylvia Tilly in Star Trek: Discovery season 5, although whether she rejoins the crew or continues at Starfleet Academy and only interjects occasionally remains unknown. What accent? You are correct, it comes down to the same thing, poor plot development. Episodes will be available on Fridays internationally on Netflix. So it has been hard, and its really hard to avoid, because it pops up on all the [social media] accounts, or people comment on my posts with cruel, unscientific comments. Keep up the great work ladies! My lady, you are so fine that I want to have your baby. (laughs). I see other people mentioning the books on Reddit and Youtube because of the new show obviously. But one could argue a ship full of Barclays is not the most convincing portrait of humanity. Thats a crumpet I want to butter. [laughter], David Ajala as Book and Sonequa Martin-Green as Michael in episode 401 Kobayashi Maru. With his skill and abilities, we will see how he may use them in a way that may affect his relationship with Michael Burnham. It just really doesnt fit in this show however. Mary shouldnt listen to the haters and Sonequa, I never noticed she looked any different than she did before, body wise. And Im even more embarrassed by this, but Ive never watched any of the Stargate shows. And its funny that you bring up needing constant therapy as a bad thing when a ton of real life people see a therapist on a regular basis. Be sure to watch Mary Wiseman "Killying it" as Ensign Sylvia Tilly on Star Trek: Discovery. I would imagine those who liked Barclay probably include a large portion of those who like Tilly. "Hope springs eternal" was the central thesis for Star Trek: Discovery's Season 4 finale . Finally, Starfleet isn't a military organisation or an army. I feel bad saying this but Ive never a read a Star Trek novel in my life lol. I notice that for whatever reason certain words will trigger the language to switch to French on my phone, and then I have to go back and correct everything. She is best known for starring as Sylvia Tilly in the Paramount+ science fiction drama series Star Trek: Discovery (2017-present). As you put it: I love how Disco has put the human back into the human experience. And I agree wholeheartedly. When a show blankets the airwaves with hugs and confessionals and cheering it tends to make any subtler moments stand out far less, but this is also not a subtle show to begin with. I love Tilly. Since this is a show for kids and its not directly focused on the Voyager characters (at least not yet ;)), obviously I dont really expect any of the bigger plot lines from those books to happen; but it would be cool if the basic idea stuck around and that the Protostar was part of a long term mission of advance starfleet ships heading back to the DQ for study. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. She brings so much heart to the show. I absolutely love Tilly/Killy. The actress also discussed how Killy inspires some fans: Killy is somebody whos very important to a lot of fans, especially my curvy women out there who like to see another full-figured, fat, curvy, chunky woman get to feel powerful and use that size to command authority, said Wiseman. I would prefer to finish the rest of Prodigy first season instead. Tilly is the most human member of the crew. And tons dont. I actually had an entire epic story mapped out that I was seriously considering turning into a series of novels. I dont love her the way I love Saru or Pike, or Janeway or Seven or Picard or Spock. Tilly (Mary Wiseman) leads the stranded Starfleet cadets to safety. )Granted, I think the special effects, space battles, bizarre technology and explosions are the proverbial tail wagging the dog, but thats always been the case, and is increasingly expected in these post-Star Wars, high tech decades. To even suggest that is stupidity writ large. I never thought of Adira as being all that similar, but I see your point. Her body shape is fabulousshe is gorgeous. But because of Discovery we have Lower Decks, Picard, Prodigy, Strange New Worlds, Short Treks, possibly Section 31 and the Academy show. They just didnt do much with him. They basically wrote her off the show! We love that someone who isnt super fit was cast, especially that its a woman. Bullied badly as a child and teen so I know what I speak of; Im just glad I grew up pre-Internet, and I sympathize with any nowadays who have to deal with Internet bullying on top of real world bullying. She went away and supposedly became an amazing well rounded person. I dont understand this at all. Actually, the production team is not helping either. My preference would be to set it post TUC but quite frankly any other established era would be fine. Btw, I really liked the scene of Tilly and Burnham running back in S1 and eating protein, carbs and fat post workout. David Ajala: Ive never thought about that. That promise was fulfilled in last weeks season finale, and Wiseman is talking about her return. But my point was that she rarely conveyed anything useful or something that was not already obvious to all. After Burnham (Sonequa Martin-Green) and Tilly (Mary Wiseman) journey to a planet alongside Burnham's mother Gabrielle (Sonja Sohn), things get a little hairy when the Qowat Milat nun they're . But Im just happy we are talking about Voyager again, especially since this show is basically a spin off of it! I have considered it and rejected it. Then that very well could be something for not just women but everyone to aspire towards. :-), What, you mean you dont follow your patients around at work, giving suggestions? DSC had many issues at the beginning. https://t.co/zV56ClHoUZ, Kate Mulgrew (@TheKateMulgrew) December 18, 2020. Maybe its just me, but I dont really care about women or mens weight on TV shows, I dont care for negative comments on them by haters, but neither do I care for the actors/actresses making such a whiney big deal about it. Im a human being, you know? | December 23, 2020 | Sylvia Tilly was an ambitious female Human Starfleet officer who lived during the mid- 23rd century. And, in that sense, it is okay to be used as it was above. PS. Proceed accordingly. Gee, so some Trek fans can be @$$holes. And now, with only three years under her belt in the field, only two of which were as a ranked officer, they think shes somehow ready to train the next generation of recruits?! For now, Wiseman is busy starring in the new comedy play At the Wedding at the Lincoln Center Theater in New York. I can see myself having a few bottles of synthehol with him. Yes, she was a therapist that say patients in her office but her betazoid abilities aided Picard. Episodes will be. The future doesnt have a preferred accent. Yeah, self absorbed is an excellent way to describe her character, Id never thought of it that way. No probably not. It felt like an organic exit, and with the way that others said goodbye to her, it . If we dont have tolerance and respect, how are we able to learn and improve humanity!? Theres even a scene where she pretty much turns to the camera and says that shell stay till the very end. I basically just know the books that gets discussed or reviewed here. I have this image in my head of the EPs saying to Mack that theyd like species that havent been main characters in other shows and asking him to give a list of options for a big and strong species, a species without a bianary gender etc. Mary Wiseman told Forbes, It was tricky, but it was a really, really fun and satisfying challenge.. However, even if the Academy series moves forward, it likely wouldnt go into production in 2022 or even 2023, leaving plenty of time for Tilly to appear in season five of Discovery. Then maybe I would actually remember his name! First of all, because theres more options for cosplay now, because she changed her hair. 1:15. Great interview, Dawn. My suspicion is they farm this out to sweatshops somewhere in Asia. This show has disrespected the actress with poor development and no real storyline except oh hey, im awkward guys.

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